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		<title>By: hairnet</title>
		<link>http://tiabuilder.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/why-science-is-wrong/#comment-429</link>
		<dc:creator>hairnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:17:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But if telepathy and coincidence and hallucinations, (i dont mean to be derogatory, these are simply your labels for certain events), were of much use, why have they contributed so little?  If I am wrong can you point to anything of the order of magnitude as say the control and use of electricity?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But if telepathy and coincidence and hallucinations, (i dont mean to be derogatory, these are simply your labels for certain events), were of much use, why have they contributed so little?  If I am wrong can you point to anything of the order of magnitude as say the control and use of electricity?</p>
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		<title>By: tiabuilder</title>
		<link>http://tiabuilder.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/why-science-is-wrong/#comment-428</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 16:00:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hairnet, considering that almost all of human history (until the past two centuries) has depended on what you call &quot;hallucinations and coincidence&quot; I question the truth of your statement.

If anything we have lost abilities we once had with telepathy skills through the brute force of science. Have you read anything from the huge body of evidence (both anecdotal and from scientific research) on the subject? It&#039;s enormous, but mostly ingored or suppressed by establishment science.

That doesn&#039;t mean that it doesn&#039;t exist. Science says that lots of things are imaginary or fictitious that turn out later to be fact. Almost every great discovery of science was at one time said to have been fantasy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hairnet, considering that almost all of human history (until the past two centuries) has depended on what you call &#8220;hallucinations and coincidence&#8221; I question the truth of your statement.</p>
<p>If anything we have lost abilities we once had with telepathy skills through the brute force of science. Have you read anything from the huge body of evidence (both anecdotal and from scientific research) on the subject? It&#8217;s enormous, but mostly ingored or suppressed by establishment science.</p>
<p>That doesn&#8217;t mean that it doesn&#8217;t exist. Science says that lots of things are imaginary or fictitious that turn out later to be fact. Almost every great discovery of science was at one time said to have been fantasy.</p>
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		<title>By: hairnet</title>
		<link>http://tiabuilder.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/why-science-is-wrong/#comment-427</link>
		<dc:creator>hairnet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 02 Jan 2008 14:01:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But lets face it, society has been given far more by science than hallucinations and coincidence have.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But lets face it, society has been given far more by science than hallucinations and coincidence have.</p>
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		<title>By: Juke</title>
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		<dc:creator>Juke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 20:06:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>vonbittner:

I fail to see how belief in an &#039;unknowable&#039; god - that is, a god without attributes or deeds - can help us understand &#039;why&#039;, if indeed there is a &#039;why&#039;.  Surely an unknowable god is like an unknowable anything else, nothing more than a mystery.  Is there a point in believing in a mystery (in the religious sense) other than the provision of a comfort blanket?

I believe that it&#039;s our inability to come to terms with death, the fear of our own non-existence, which gives rise to our need for gods. If it helps people to believe that someone or something is watching over them, fine, but it&#039;s got nothing to do with pursuit of knowledge.  And if people evolve beyond the need for such beliefs the blame does not lie at the door of science.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>vonbittner:</p>
<p>I fail to see how belief in an &#8216;unknowable&#8217; god &#8211; that is, a god without attributes or deeds &#8211; can help us understand &#8216;why&#8217;, if indeed there is a &#8216;why&#8217;.  Surely an unknowable god is like an unknowable anything else, nothing more than a mystery.  Is there a point in believing in a mystery (in the religious sense) other than the provision of a comfort blanket?</p>
<p>I believe that it&#8217;s our inability to come to terms with death, the fear of our own non-existence, which gives rise to our need for gods. If it helps people to believe that someone or something is watching over them, fine, but it&#8217;s got nothing to do with pursuit of knowledge.  And if people evolve beyond the need for such beliefs the blame does not lie at the door of science.</p>
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		<title>By: sauerkraut</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 02:02:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Science is thought in action.  The thought that humans are &quot;important&quot; to what the world does is egotistical and destructive.

Which is why we are where we are today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Science is thought in action.  The thought that humans are &#8220;important&#8221; to what the world does is egotistical and destructive.</p>
<p>Which is why we are where we are today.</p>
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		<title>By: timcub</title>
		<link>http://tiabuilder.wordpress.com/2007/12/30/why-science-is-wrong/#comment-418</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 01:23:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Science has, inadvertently, turned us into beings of the here and now, believing nothing that cannot be explained by what science knows or theorizes today. Science, meanwhile, has told itself that its own theories are fact so often that it accepts its favourite theories as soon-to-be-proven or all-but-proven truths. Theories that go against widely accepted scientific theories receive little attention and much derision when they get some. Theories about gravity, evolution, even Einstein’s relativity have doubters, but they receive little acknowledgement. Yet even Einstein had doubts about some of his work.&quot;

It is not my opinion that science and religion must be diametrically opposed to one another.  Instead, I have found, in the teachings of the Buddha, that science and religion actually tend to back one another up.  According to the Buddha, we were already beings of the here and now, even before science got to us.  Yes, science is based on theories, many of which have been updated with the accruance of knowledge.  It seems to me that religious theories could use the same treatment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Science has, inadvertently, turned us into beings of the here and now, believing nothing that cannot be explained by what science knows or theorizes today. Science, meanwhile, has told itself that its own theories are fact so often that it accepts its favourite theories as soon-to-be-proven or all-but-proven truths. Theories that go against widely accepted scientific theories receive little attention and much derision when they get some. Theories about gravity, evolution, even Einstein’s relativity have doubters, but they receive little acknowledgement. Yet even Einstein had doubts about some of his work.&#8221;</p>
<p>It is not my opinion that science and religion must be diametrically opposed to one another.  Instead, I have found, in the teachings of the Buddha, that science and religion actually tend to back one another up.  According to the Buddha, we were already beings of the here and now, even before science got to us.  Yes, science is based on theories, many of which have been updated with the accruance of knowledge.  It seems to me that religious theories could use the same treatment.</p>
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		<title>By: orelandgrump</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I would argue god and metaphysical phenomena are contrivances. People are programmed to seek comfort and contentment in numbers. We join clubs we identify with race, religion, custom, region. Nothing wrong with that It&#039;s rational and sane. 

The more we learn, we learn there is more to learn. Six hundred years ago the world was flat. 

Generalizations are not a good idea.

**Bill adds: Very few people ever believed that the world is/was flat. The Flat Earth Society still exists today, but it has receive far more attention than it was worth. Earth has been known to be a globe since ancient times. The &quot;flat earth&quot; idea was a mouse roaring like a lion because people paid attention to it even though they didn&#039;t believe it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I would argue god and metaphysical phenomena are contrivances. People are programmed to seek comfort and contentment in numbers. We join clubs we identify with race, religion, custom, region. Nothing wrong with that It&#8217;s rational and sane. </p>
<p>The more we learn, we learn there is more to learn. Six hundred years ago the world was flat. </p>
<p>Generalizations are not a good idea.</p>
<p>**Bill adds: Very few people ever believed that the world is/was flat. The Flat Earth Society still exists today, but it has receive far more attention than it was worth. Earth has been known to be a globe since ancient times. The &#8220;flat earth&#8221; idea was a mouse roaring like a lion because people paid attention to it even though they didn&#8217;t believe it.</p>
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		<title>By: vonbittner</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 23:15:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It seems to me that western society has grown to believe there has to be an explanation for everything and that we must be able to understand it for it to be accepted as true and real. Living with the mystery, with the impossibility of comprehension is just not possible for many of us. 

I do agree with Juke when said without science we´d still be sitting in our caves. However there is a chance you&#039;ve misunderstood some of tiabuilder&#039;s points. It&#039;s not what science does but what we do with it. I mean, letting science tell us what to believe in blindfolded is just as dangerous as letting religion govern our lives blindfolded.   

Moreover, I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a pointless exercise believing in an &quot;unknowable&quot; god since &quot;we cannot know that it created the universe.&quot; Remember science can tell you &quot;how&quot; things happen but &quot;why&quot; things happen will always be theory and ,as any theory, subject to reconsideration and refitting. 

I&#039;d say trying to prove whether the mind, the soul, or God exist or not is quite a waste of time most times. It seems like you&#039;re playing &quot;my-dad-is-better-than-your-dad&quot; just to prove yourself something which only really matters to you (no offense intended, don&#039;t get me wrong here).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It seems to me that western society has grown to believe there has to be an explanation for everything and that we must be able to understand it for it to be accepted as true and real. Living with the mystery, with the impossibility of comprehension is just not possible for many of us. </p>
<p>I do agree with Juke when said without science we´d still be sitting in our caves. However there is a chance you&#8217;ve misunderstood some of tiabuilder&#8217;s points. It&#8217;s not what science does but what we do with it. I mean, letting science tell us what to believe in blindfolded is just as dangerous as letting religion govern our lives blindfolded.   </p>
<p>Moreover, I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s a pointless exercise believing in an &#8220;unknowable&#8221; god since &#8220;we cannot know that it created the universe.&#8221; Remember science can tell you &#8220;how&#8221; things happen but &#8220;why&#8221; things happen will always be theory and ,as any theory, subject to reconsideration and refitting. </p>
<p>I&#8217;d say trying to prove whether the mind, the soul, or God exist or not is quite a waste of time most times. It seems like you&#8217;re playing &#8220;my-dad-is-better-than-your-dad&#8221; just to prove yourself something which only really matters to you (no offense intended, don&#8217;t get me wrong here).</p>
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		<title>By: rengawman</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 21:57:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I believe in the Universality of truth, and that science, philosophy, and even theology is all geared toward the deeper understanding of man in the context of the reality that he lives in.  Truth, furthermore, cannot contradict itself- what is true in chemistry can&#039;t contradict what is true in physics- likewise theology cannot contradict science, nor can science contradict theology or philosophy (if the philosophy or theology is sound).  If it does, there is a problem with your methodology, or your premesis.  I write more extensively in my own blog on this subject here:

http://rengawman.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/hows-bout-a-little-theology/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I believe in the Universality of truth, and that science, philosophy, and even theology is all geared toward the deeper understanding of man in the context of the reality that he lives in.  Truth, furthermore, cannot contradict itself- what is true in chemistry can&#8217;t contradict what is true in physics- likewise theology cannot contradict science, nor can science contradict theology or philosophy (if the philosophy or theology is sound).  If it does, there is a problem with your methodology, or your premesis.  I write more extensively in my own blog on this subject here:</p>
<p><a href="http://rengawman.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/hows-bout-a-little-theology/" rel="nofollow">http://rengawman.wordpress.com/2007/11/14/hows-bout-a-little-theology/</a></p>
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		<title>By: goodinfo2</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 31 Dec 2007 18:42:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I must say I find this blog very interesting.  </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I must say I find this blog very interesting.</p>
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